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That HTML Thing... HTML is in the Eyes of the Beholder...

Is HTML really in the eyes of the beholder ?  Well... a long time ago... at least for ME it was.

I recently wrote a post about making Spelling Errors while writing a blog post.  During that post, and in some of the comments... some folks wrote about their "favorite" non-favorite spelling errors.

You know... the ones that irked them the most.  Like its and it's.  Or advice and advise.  Or sight and site.  Or your and you're.

These examples brought back a memory to me... one from a very long time ago.  Well... in "online" terms... it was "very long" ago.

It was back in the days of America Online.  Good Old AOL.

I had just started playing with AOL.  I chose my first email address... and started getting email for the first time.

So... slowly but surely... the emails started coming.

But... way back when... way back then... all of the titles of the emails, or in all of the email addresses of those who were sending me emails... the four letters HTML appeared.  It's been so long ago, that I don't remember in what context the letters HTML appeared... but there they were... those four letters... HTML.

Well... I decided that nobody's gonna put one over on THIS girl !  Nobody's gonna fool ME.  So... with me getting all this HTML email... I absolutely REFUSED to open ANY of them.  I just let them sit. 

The unread emails piled up.  All of these HTML emails just sat there... the pile of them growing day by day.  But no... not me... I am NOT gonna open these hateful things.

The problem was... that I had no clue what HTML meant... and I just assumed that everyone was sending me HATE MAIL.

Why would they DO this to me ?  I'm just a Nice Catholic Girl from Cleveland.  I'm a nice person.  Why am I getting all this "hate mail?"

I finally asked someone on AOL about it.  I wanted to see if if it was just ME... or if "they" were getting lots of "hate mail" as well.

It was only then... that I learned that HTML did not stand for "hate mail"... but for Hyper Text Markup Language.

I mean... yow... did I feel like a dummie... or what ?  <dummie smile>


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Comment balloon 25 commentsKaren Anne Stone • September 18 2010 01:07AM


That's funny! I hated AOL back then, Karen. It was supposed to be revolutionary (maybe it was), but it was slow and clumsy and it drove me nuts!!!

Posted by Todd & Devona Garrigus, Broker / REALTORS® (Garrigus Real Estate) over 10 years ago

Very funny, but I must confess back when email was the hottest new thing to hit the techie world, I thought it stood for "hotmail" so you were not alone.

Posted by Norma Toering Broker for Palos Verdes and Beach Cities, Palos Verdes Luxury Homes in L.A. (Charlemagne International Properties) over 10 years ago

Karen Anne,

What a cute story of our Internet childhood. In those years, I was actually trying to learn that "hateful" language and use it to create a website.

Posted by Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL, Buy Daytona condos for heavenly good prices (Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408) over 10 years ago

liked the post....I wrot a book and I spell badly and have no grammer skills and people would always say something...I just keep on writing....working on my 3rd book.

stories from the big chair on Amazon

Posted by Earl Miller, Solano County, Contra Costa,Benicia Real Estate, 707-280-6366 (Coldwell Banker Solano Pacific) over 10 years ago

Todd & Devona Garrigus:  Oh, the time I spent in those old AOL chat rooms.  But, one fun thing about it was that they allowed you to have up to seven active email addresses... at no additional charge.  Of course, I had one for Karen Anne, but also had an email address of MsSmartyPants2... and MissyDFW... and some other inventive ones.  It did not drive ME nutz... cuz I was already nuts.

Posted by Karen Anne Stone, Fort Worth Real Estate (New Home Hunters of Fort Worth and Tarrant County) over 10 years ago

Oh Karen, the important thing is how far you've come with your fancy-pants HTML formatting! 

My parents are actually still on AOL and I shudder every time I hear the dialup tone while visiting.  It's like a bad flashback to 1995.  I'm a net snob.  Oh well, nobody's perfect :).

Posted by Dee Bundy, Helping You Make Colorado "Home" (Fort Collins Realtor @ C3 Real Estate Solutions) over 10 years ago

Norma:  Thanks... but I was serious about fearing all that hate mail back then.  What did I know ?  Hotmail ?  Ok... but you were prettier than I was back then, I am sure... so I'm guessing that ALL the email you got was "hotmail."  <silly smile>

Posted by Karen Anne Stone, Fort Worth Real Estate (New Home Hunters of Fort Worth and Tarrant County) over 10 years ago

John:  Yes... Internet childhood.  We had to start someplace.  Wow... back then you were actually 'writing" in HTML ?  You were way over MY hear, my friend.  You probably still are, techie-wise.

Posted by Karen Anne Stone, Fort Worth Real Estate (New Home Hunters of Fort Worth and Tarrant County) over 10 years ago

Earl:  Much better to spell badly, have no grammar skills, and write three books, than have perfect spelling and grammar, and not say a word.  If those are the only two choices... your way is better. 

And... congratulations on churning out book number three.  That is quite an accomplishment.  What are the two books you have already written ?

Posted by Karen Anne Stone, Fort Worth Real Estate (New Home Hunters of Fort Worth and Tarrant County) over 10 years ago

Danielle:  How far I've come with my fancy-pants HTML.  My dear, all I know about HTML are two things.  It does NOT stand for hate mail... and it DOES stand for Hyper Text Markup Language.  That is it.  Other than that... I have no clue whatsoever how to use HTML.  I have peeked at it... and yikes, does it look complicated.  I will leave that to the programmers.  I just write stuff... LOL.

Posted by Karen Anne Stone, Fort Worth Real Estate (New Home Hunters of Fort Worth and Tarrant County) over 10 years ago

Oh wow.  Remember floppy disks.  I just spent several hours formatting a bunch of them with my external floppy disk drive before I toss them in the trash.  Had to take the time to re-format them in order to erase the info on them.

I can remember connecting to the Web when it first came about.  There were a couple of other places you could join up with to access the internet and Websites besides AOL.  I joined AOL and another one which I can't remember the name of.  When I first was connected I searched for Hendersonville and came up with about 7 entries to click on.  I learned that Hendersonville was popular in 2 other states and most importantly I bought FrontPage and created a Website.  How times and technology flies!

Sue of Robin and Sue

Posted by Robin Dampier REALTOR®, Hendersonville & Western NC Real Estate Source (Coldwell Banker King) over 10 years ago

Sue:  I remember one called CompuServe.  There was another one... Earth something or other... cannot remember it.  Sheesh... the memory is fading. 

I am afraid that way back then... all I did was AOL.  And I surely can remember how long it took to get online with AOL... but at least it worked... and there were NO Server Errors... or Proxy Errors.  LOL.

Wow... way back then you created a website.  You ARE a high-tech woman... I am impressed.  Prolly run circles around me.  I think I remember FrontPage.  I am remembering that I thought it was much too complicated to even attempt.  I was a scardy-cat back then.  I was probably afraid if I tried something like that, my old computer would either blow up, or melt... right there on top of my desk.

Posted by Karen Anne Stone, Fort Worth Real Estate (New Home Hunters of Fort Worth and Tarrant County) over 10 years ago

Times have changed - and perhaps time to learn XML (and no it is not 'X' MAIL...), FBML and what not! In few more years, perhaps we will talk about...some other 'ML'!

Posted by Praful Thakkar, Andover, MA: Andover Luxury Homes For Sale (LAER Realty Partners) over 10 years ago

Praful:  I will leave all that XML and such to you.  I am trying to concentrate on learning how to use and then upgrade to a website... so I don't have to only depend on Active Rain.

It is not easy finding WordPress tutorials online... and as far as I know, there is no place I can go that teaches courses in it.

As far as that stuff is concerned... it takes me a while to learn it, but once I have it down... I can teach it to anybody.

Posted by Karen Anne Stone, Fort Worth Real Estate (New Home Hunters of Fort Worth and Tarrant County) over 10 years ago

You've Got Mail!  boy did this post bring back some memories!  Expensive Memories!  Do you remember how expensive it was at first to be on AOL?  Whew.  Crazy how things have changed and how much better they have gotten.

Posted by Debbie Atwood, Real Estate Broker (Century 21 Real Estate Center Everett, WA) over 10 years ago

Debbie:  I think it is currently $25.99 to be on AOL.  Also, on their 25th anniversary, they supposedly took a major turn to revamp their site, and really expand it... hoping that the public would use it as a major portal to the internet.  We shall see.  News-wise... I always thought they did a pretty decent job of covering a wide variety of happenings.

Posted by Karen Anne Stone, Fort Worth Real Estate (New Home Hunters of Fort Worth and Tarrant County) over 10 years ago

EarthLink, Prodigy, CompuServe, AOL...I think those were the four biggies.  :)

I started on a University connection with email and Usenet back in the last 80's.  AOL was still a few years away and when it popped on the scene and they opened it up to Usenet, we thougth it was the devil! 

I was actually online before there really was HTML but as soon as the World Wide Web got pretty pictures, I was learning how to write the stuff in notepad and make my own pages.  My first website was a fan page for the Dallas Cowboys.  I made a big star logo and posted game stats each week.  I was quite the geek back then.

Now days, my sites look more like this.  :)

Posted by Gayla Worrell, Real Estate Webworks (Windermere Real Estate/Everett, Inc.) over 10 years ago

Wow!  That takes me back - back to the dark ages of the internet when I was - GASP- on dialup.  I've had some internet issues lately and had to go back to those roots from time to time.  UGH!!!! It was soooooo slow.  There was even a movie from those days that I remember with nostalgia - "You've Got Mail."

Posted by Ruthmarie Hicks (Keller Williams NY Realty - 120 Bloomingdale Road #101, White Plains NY 10605) over 10 years ago

Gayla:  I clicked on your link... when led me to a very pretty and quite impressive website.  I would ask you who did it for you, but I am guessing, just from what you have said, that you built the website yourself.

Earthlink... that's the one I was trying to think of.  And Prodigy, along with AOL and CompuServe.  Sounds like you know your stuff.

OK... Geek-ette... just HOW do I learn WordPress ?  I have started two "outside blogs" just to mess around with... and try in the process to learn how to use and then to go on to  Any ideas on how to learn how to do that stuff... Ms Geek-ette ?

Posted by Karen Anne Stone, Fort Worth Real Estate (New Home Hunters of Fort Worth and Tarrant County) over 10 years ago

Ruthmarie:  Before I forget... I tried to find that post you mentioned, but could not figure out which one it was.  Could you email me a link... pretty puhleeze.

Ahhh... the Dark Ages of the InterWeb.  Back even before Al Gore invented it.  Yikes.  And yes, "You've Got Mail"... Tom Hanks and the curly-haired chick... whats'er'name.  Meg Ryan.  Very cute... very much girl-next-door'sy.

Speaking of websites... as I have told you before... I think your outside Tomato blog is just awesome.

Posted by Karen Anne Stone, Fort Worth Real Estate (New Home Hunters of Fort Worth and Tarrant County) over 10 years ago

That is a good one for "Maxine" the cartoon lady.  Very funny..

Posted by Patty Clark, Helping Families Move with Care (Morningside Homes, LLC 720-231-5200) over 10 years ago

Hi Karen - I never used AOL but I did use Compuserve in the world wide web era.  HTML is for people like me - those who like to write code.

Marti Garaughty at profile started writing a series on how to setup a WordPress blog in the past week or two.  The series is ongoing so you might want to follow it.

Posted by FN LN over 10 years ago

There have been lots of changes on the internet since conception, and has been fun rolling with it!

Posted by Joan Cox, Denver Real Estate - Selling One Home at a Time (House to Home, Inc. - Denver Real Estate - 720-231-6373) over 10 years ago

Ah, yes, and the user name had to have eight characters (shades of Windows 1.31 and Windows 3.0 file names).

Remember when you first heard about a computer that used a MOUSE?!? What the heck was a mouse, anyway? Talking about floppies made me remember when the program came on a floppy; and being up to date meant that you had a computer with TWO floppy drives, so you did not have to switch back and forth between the program floppy and the data floppy. And Karen, since you entered the computer age when you were a teacher, did you ever use MECC Writer? (Minnesota Educational Computer Consortium, I think...)

Posted by Liz Lockhart, GRI, Cape Girardeau Real Estate (Riverbend Realty, Cape Girardeau, MO) over 10 years ago

Sorry Karen Anne!  I got all distracted with trying to actually sell houses the last few days and I'm just now getting back to comment catch up!  :)

Ugh WordPress!  I've only used it a few times and, I have to say, it's one of the most confusing things I've ever done onine!  Part of the confusion comes from the fact that "a WordPres blog" can mean so many different things!  There's which is an online blogging platform and there's the wordpress blogging "software" that is actually a script that can be installed on a website.

The blogs are not as difficult to use but I'm not sure how they are indexed by the search engines.  If they aren't, it kind of defeats our purpose of blogging!

The wordpress script which installs a stand alone blog, similar to the AR outside blog, is the one I have so much trouble with.  I've created a few sites based on it and actually managed to blog for a good few weeks before I get frustrated and just quit.  There's also the issue of not getting comments which sort of ruins my motivation!  :)

I know there are a few books about Wordpress.  Maybe a Dummies Guide and a few others I've seen.  I don't know how useful they are because the technology changes so quickly.  I guess my best suggestion would be just play around with them and then ask questions, here or on the wordpress forums.  Other then that, I can't say I have a ton of advice on how to use the stupid thing!  :)

Posted by Gayla Worrell, Real Estate Webworks (Windermere Real Estate/Everett, Inc.) over 10 years ago